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d0a91 No.2233[Reply]

saw some stats today that actually make sense for once. turns out 65% of gen z and millennials want ai chatbots to cite creators in their recommendations. it's basically just the new version of looking at tiktok before buying a blender lol. even though people want those citations, only 29% say it actually makes them buy the product.
>consumers are looking for authenticity and trust and that is coming from creators
the gap between generations is hilarious too since boomers are almost exactly the opposite. i'm not sure how we're even supposed to optimize for ai shopping journeys when most of the data still points to reviews being king. it feels like a lot of noise if the conversion isn't actually moving. if you can't drive the sale, what's the point of getting cited in the bot? i doubt this changes much for brands unless they have massive budgets for influencer seeding. anyway, just something to chew on while i finish this spreadsheet.

full read: https://www.marketingdive.com/news/creator-content-preferred-in-ai-recommendations-heres-what-the-numbers-sa/830523/

d0a91 No.2234

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>>2233
>if you can't drive the sale, what's the point of getting cited in the bot?

just focus on getting your product name mentioned in those top-tier reddit threads or niche blogs where bots scrape for "real" opinions. it works great for brand awareness but won't help if the price point is too high for a quick impulse buy.

d0a91 No.2238

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>>2233
>if you can't drive the sale, what's the point of getting cited in the bot?

ran into this exact wall with a skincare client last month. we spent weeks seeding comments on niche forums to get that organic bot presence, but the conversion rate stayed flat as hell because nobody actually clicks through from a chatbot window. it's basically just vanity metrics at this point lol. it's just fancy brand awareness

d0a91 No.2270

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>>2238
im not sure i agree with the vanity metrics thing. even if nobody clicks through, being part of that training data is basically long term seo for llms. you might not see a direct spike in checkout today but if the bot starts recommending your product as the default choice every time someone asks about skincare then youre winning. it's more about building that foundational presence so you show up in the latent space. its definitely not an impulse buy driver yet, but ignoring those threads is just leaving money on the table for later.



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60008 No.2242[Reply]

i tried using descriptive headers for every single section but it just breaks the flow of the narrative. it's way better to use bolded lead-in sentences if you actually want people to read the damn thing. does anyone here actually find those heavy subheaders useful or do they just ruin the rhythm?

60008 No.2253

>>2242
>it's way better to use bolded lead-in sentences if you actually want people to read the damn thing

bolding works for short tutorials but kills the vibe on deep dives. try using a single one-word header in all caps instead of full descriptive sentences. it keeps the visual structure without that clunky, textbook feel lol.

60008 No.2261

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>>2253
>try using a single one-word header in all caps instead of full descriptive sentences
the all-caps thing is a bit much but i've been playing with Obsidian lately and realized it works if the font size is tiny, did you test that out on actual live pages or just your own drafts?

60008 No.2266

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>>2253
>try using a single one-word header in all caps instead of full descriptive sentences one-word headers look great super amateurish if you dont have the spacing right.



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4030f No.2231[Reply]

i used to spend hours obsessing over some grand opening hook that never actually went anywhere. it's such a waste of time when the real value is buried three paragraphs deep. now, if i'm stuck, i just finish the middle part first and then delete the entire beginning once the meat is done. usually the actual start of the post is just me warming up my brain. it saves so much headache during the editing phase because you aren't trying to force a connection that isn't there. it makes the transition into the main point way more natural too. honestly, most of what i write in those first two sentences is total fluff. i just cut it and start where the actual info begins. does anyone else find themselves deleting the first third of every single piece they finish?

4030f No.2260

>>2231
I went through this exact same thing during that big documentation rewrite for the payment gateway last year. I had three different versions of the opening paragraph saved because I kept trying to make it sound authoritative. It was just stalling my actual progress on the technical steps. Once I stopped worrying about the hook and just wrote out the implementation details, the draft finally made sense. Deleting that warm up text is the only way I get anything finished lately. The meat of the logic usually reveals what the intro should have been anyway.



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1fafc No.2259[Reply]

another year of the same agencies winning everything.
>demonstrating how strategic, audience-first thinking drives business results
it's just marketing speak for "we made a pretty video." i can't even look at the shortlist without feeling bored. does anyone actually find these categories useful or is it all just for show?

more here: https://www.contentmarketingworld.com/2026-content-marketing-awards-category-winners/


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bb144 No.2228[Reply]

I've been seeing way too many clients running tests where they just swap out the old version for a new one without any baseline. It makes the data basically useless because you can't tell if the lift is real or just a random spike in open rates.

bb144 No.2255

>>2228
classic client move lol. are they at least checking if the open rate spike correlates with a specific day of the week or just blindly trusting the dashboard?



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bc833 No.2221[Reply]

i was reading this piece and it's basically just suggesting you turn every single comment thread into its own whole thing. apparently you can even link back to old discussions or use stuff like comment subscription plugins to keep things moving, but i don't know.
>Make Your Reader's Famous
it sounds a little desperate for content. it's fine if someone says something actually smart, but most people just leave a "great post" and move on. turning that into a new topic feels like low effort filler. i can't imagine how much work it'd be to manage all those follow-up posts without just repeating yourself. does anyone actually do this without it becoming a total mess?

https://problogger.com/build-on-reader-coomments/

a93a2 No.2229

>>2221
tried this for a boutique skincare brand last year and it turned into total garbage because we were just recycling the same three questions about shipping costs. it felt like writing a manual instead of making content.

a93a2 No.2232

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>>2221
i think you're right about the filler aspect though. i'd expect people to just ignore the fluff and only pick out the one or two comments that actually spark a debate. if you try to turn every little "great post" into a new topic, you're basically just spamming your own feed.

a93a2 No.2251

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>>2229
shipping questions are gold a nightmare for anyone trying to actually scale. what kind of cms were you using for that skincare brand? i've seen some plugins try to automate this and it just creates an endless loop of garbage.



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8d010 No.2249[Reply]

saw the cmi winners list today and it's basically just a bunch of big corporate budgets masquerading as "storytelling". lincoln financial won project of the year for some four-part docuseries about retirement.
>authentic, emotional storytelling
lol good luck trying to scale that without a million dollar production budget. pace communications is also getting all the credit for using 'human judgment' with ai. it's just another way to say they're still manually checking the prompts so the brand doesn't look like a total bot. i can't see how any of this applies to actual growth work where we're just trying to drive clicks and not win fancy trophies in denver.

found this here: https://www.contentmarketingworld.com/top-2026-content-marketing-awards-winners-step-into-spotlight/


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b53bf No.2225[Reply]

ann handley's right about ai stripping out the weird bits that actually make writing good.
>personality is what keeps readers coming back
if we just use prompts to clean up every sentence, we're basically just making bland soup for nobody to eat lol. hard to see how you even scale a brand if everything sounds like a generic template.

more here: https://annhandley.com/what-ai-would-delete-from-great-writing/

b53bf No.2241

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>>2225
bland soup is exactly what it feels like lately. you using a specific custom instruction set to try and keep the weirdness or just letting it run wild?

b53bf No.2248

>>2241
i tried running a client's newsletter through claude last month to save some time and it turned into total garbage. everything was too polite and lacked any actual edge. i ended up having to rewrite the whole thing manually because the output felt like a corporate brochure written by a robot.
>personality is what keeps readers coming back

if you strip out the friction, there's nothing left to grip onto. i stopped using custom instructions for the heavy lifting and now i just use it to brainstorm bad ideas i can fix later. it's way easier to fix a mess than to try and inject life into a corpse lol.



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7289d No.2230[Reply]

it's weird that you can get cited in new categories without actually getting mentioned by the llms. seems like we're just building a list of footnotes instead of real brand presence if we can't move past being a source in a citation set. anyone else seeing this happen with their bigger clients?

article: https://www.growth-memo.com/p/does-topical-focus-make-your-brand

7289d No.2235

>>2230
That footnote feeling is driving me crazy with my tech clients too. I've started trying to inject way more weird, specific opinions into our guides instead of just facts. It doesn't work for purely instructional stuff where you need to be neutral, but it helps a bit when we're trying to get the LLM to actually adopt our "voice" rather than just scraping our data.

7289d No.2246

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>>2235
>inject way more weird, specific opinions into our guides
lol yeah, i've tried that with some of my b2b clients and it usually just makes the editors twitchy. what kind of sentiment tracking are you actually doing to see if it sticks?



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e31bc No.2226[Reply]

i was just looking at some stats for a client and it's actually depressing. over 80% of marketing teams are using ai for stuff already. we're all just drowning in drafts that look exactly the same. i had this one post last week that totally flopped because it felt so robotic, even though the data was fine.
>The result is that teams have more drafts than they can review.
it's not even about speed volume anymore. it's like we need someone whose entire job is just having good taste so we don't publish garbage. klarna did some big changes with their workflows to make it work, but i don't see how that helps me when my inbox is already a mess. honestly, finding someone who actually knows what 'quality' looks like is going to be the hard part.

article: https://contently.com/2026/04/27/the-1-role-your-content-team-needs-in-2026-is-a-managing-editor/

e31bc No.2240

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>>2226
>finding someone who actually knows what 'quality' looks like is going to be the hard part
had a client last month with this exact issue. their traffic was spiking but the bounce rate on google search console was through the roof because every single landing page felt hollow. i spent three days just weeding out the generic garbage that passed their automated checks but failed the vibe check.

e31bc No.2245

>>2226
>>2240 i did this same thing for a tech client by forcing them to use a specific set of "brand weirdness" prompts in their brief. it works great for injecting personality into social posts but definitely doesn't work for technical documentation where you just need the facts straight.



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