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1c574 No.2373[Reply]

just saw this list of 11 tools and honestly planable sounds like it could save me from my usual email nightmare.
>comments, revisions, and client approvals happen directly on each post
ngl the idea of feedback being attached to the actual post instead of buried in a thread is total bliss but i doubt my messiest clients would actually use it right.

full read: https://planable.io/blog/content-calendar-tools/

1c574 No.2374

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>>2373
Your clients will just find a way to send a screenshot of a Word doc instead. Good luck with that



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13d2e No.2372[Reply]

was working on this massive client case study yesterday. spent like three days digging through their data to make it look impressive but people are just bouncing after the first two paragraphs. i tried adding more descriptive subheads and even moved the results closer to the top, but the bounce rate is still staying high. honestly feels like i'm writing for robots instead of actual humans. maybe the intro is too much fluff? it basically reads like a press release right now. i really need to find a way to hook them without being all clickbaity or losing the professional vibe.


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070ed No.2371[Reply]

i've been looking at some of the automated monthly digests my client uses for their b2b newsletter. they're using that new generative feature to summarize recent blog posts and it's completely stripped out all the personality. it sounds like a generic tech manual instead of an actual person talking. anyone else seeing this happen with automated summaries?


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7e694 No.2350[Reply]

tried looking into how we actually get picked for citations in chatgpt or gemini but it's all just vague stuff about topic mapping and depth.
>which pages, if any, actually get cited?
it feels like we're just hoping the crawler picks up our authority without any real way to force it. it's basically SEO luck for 2024 pretty much useless for my current client roadmap. what are you guys actually doing differently to show up in those snippets?

article: https://blog.hubspot.com/marketing/aeo-guide-for-content-strategists

7e694 No.2370

>>2350
i had a client go totally dark on citations after we doubled down on topic depth for their main pillar pages, so what kind of metrics were you seeing before the roadmap went south? it's driving me insane



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0aae5 No.2361[Reply]

just read some nonsense about adding brand pov to third-party posts. supposedly you gotta reframe everything instead of just sharing. sounds like a way to double the workload with zero extra value, especially when trying to maintain a consistent brand voice across different platforms. tbh it's basically just more manual labor disguised as

https://blog-cms.socialinsider.io/social-media-content-curation/

0aae5 No.2369

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>>2361
double the workload is exactly what happened with my last client. i spent three hours rewriting a simple industry news link just to make it sound "on brand" and nobody even noticed the difference in engagement.



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2179a No.2347[Reply]

had a client scream at me yesterday because my tone sounded way too aggressive in an update email. i was using grammarly to check for typos and it totally missed the vibe shift because i was rushing through tasks. it's fine it actually made me sound like a jerk.
>tone detector: professional
the detector is lying

2179a No.2349

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>>2347
grammarly's tone detector is usually way too passive and polite anyway. i've had it flag perfectly fine sentences as too casual when they were just direct, tbh.

2179a No.2365

>>2349
>too passive and polite anyway
The algorithm just wants everything to look like a generic, sans-serif template with zero personality. I hate when it suggests adding extra fluff that ruins the visual rhythm of a paragraph.

2179a No.2368

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>>2349
>too passive and polite anyway
grammarly is basically just a digital etiquette coach for people who are afraid of conflict lol. it'll turn your directness into pure mush.



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b1a12 No.2367[Reply]

everyone's obsessed with keywords but ignoring actual link architecture is dumb. i've been seeing way too many product descriptions that just sit there without any context. let's try something simple this week. pick one low-traffic category page and manually add three descriptive anchor text links to related sub-items. don't just use generic stuff like click here or learn more. use actual feature names or specific use cases instead. it's better than just praying the crawler finds everything on its own ⚡


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f42bb No.2341[Reply]

liquid death is basically running on this proprietary omega system now.
>we optimize our campaign on a daily basis
it sounds like a total nightmare for anyone who actually needs to sleep, ngl. feels more like [].

link: https://www.marketingdive.com/news/how-liquid-death-is-building-an-ai-native-marketing-organization/832345/

f42bb No.2360

>>2341
daily optimization sounds like a recipe for burnout. i had a client last year obsessed with real-time tweaking and it turned my whole schedule into trash. i was basically living in the dashboard checking every single metric an hour after posting. nothing actually gets better when you're just reacting to noise. eventually the content just lost its soul because we were chasing every tiny spike instead of building anything real. it's exhausting trying to keep up with a machine like that.

f42bb No.2364

>>2341
daily optimization is just a buzzword for automated rule sets. nobody's actually sitting there manually tweaking ads every few hours, that's just pure delusion. it's probably just some basic script running on their ad manager to adjust bids when certain thresholds hit. it's literally just math lol

f42bb No.2366

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>>2360 chasing spikes is just a fast track to garbage data. you're basically just training your models on random variance at that point and ruining your lifetime value.



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6de7c No.2363[Reply]

the new cmo is basically just running a barbell play with all you can eat deals on one end and expensive don julio stuff on the other. it is pretty much just leaning into the cheap $12.99 skillets to offset those annoying sales drops. trying to hit both the budget crowd and the younger crowd at once feels like a recipe for messy branding lol.

link: https://www.marketingdive.com/news/applebees-cmo-on-differentiating-marketing-in-a-value-obsessed-industry/832838/


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cc222 No.2348[Reply]

been thinking about this a lot since paid search is basically dead for anyone without a massive budget lol.
>the teams that found a new lever early on took advantage of lower competition
it's the same old story with email and content just getting crowded out. i'm skeptical about how we actually scale this without it becoming another cheap expensive mess once everyone realizes they can use ai to flood the engines.

more here: https://blog.hubspot.com/marketing/aeo-guide-for-growth-marketing-teams

cc222 No.2357

>>2348
paid search isn't dying, it's just getting way more efficient for people who actually know how to use data instead of just throwing money at keywords. the real mess will be everyone thinking they can automate original thought and still rank anywhere.

cc222 No.2362

>>2357
tried that exact thing with a skincare client last month and our traffic just cratered because we relied too much on generic keywords. everything felt so hollow and the engagement was basically zero.



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