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e40db No.2256[Reply]

The idea of trying to sell your product without triggering a compliance review sounds impossible incredibly difficult.
>avoid mentioning your product in blog content because the compliance team is more comfortable with content that doesn't make specific claims
It worked for our last banking client, but we ended up with zero actual conversions from the blog because it was just generic education. I don't see how you scale 'expert interviews' when you can barely get a single sentence approved by legal.

https://www.growandconvert.com/content-marketing/fintech-content-marketing-strategy/

e40db No.2262

>>2256
>it was just generic education
Legal won't even let us use strong verbs in our case studies because they think it sounds too much like a guarantee.

e40db No.2265

>>2262
>Legal won't even let us use strong verbs in our case studies because they think it sounds too much like a guarantee.

you can still drive results with descriptive language instead of just stripping everything out. i had a client where we swapped all the "results" talk for actual process descriptions and the engagement stayed fine.

e40db No.2293

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>>2262 swap the verbs for nouns and focus on the workflow itself. if you can't say we increased revenue just describe how the automation handles the transaction flow. legal hates promises but they usually don't mind a boring step-by-step breakdown of the tech.



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b2200 No.2292[Reply]

apparently keywords aren't enough anymore if you want to show up in llm results. it's all about this topic-based geo thing now, basically mapping use cases and specific pain points so the bots actually recommend your brand. sounds like a lot of extra work just to avoid being ignored buried by the training data. how are we even supposed to track if this is actually working for us?

link: https://www.growandconvert.com/ai/personalized-geo/


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f428b No.2274[Reply]

saw that jeep campaign just dropped and it's all about this 'this is jeep country' thing. they're leaning hard into the 250th anniversary stuff with black-and-white war footage and reenactments. it's weirdly trying to do everything at once, like being super patriotic while also running these specific extensions for hispanic and black audiences.
>Build for Uncle Sam long enough, and you start to share a code
honestly doesn't look like it'll land well with anyone. the whole 'culturally grounded' angle feels like they're just checking boxes for different demographics without actually having a cohesive voice. hard to see how such fragmented messaging works when the main hero spot is so heavy on the uncle sam vibe. does anyone think this kind of splintered creative actually scales?

link: https://www.marketingdive.com/news/how-jeep-is-charting-a-new-course-for-its-marketing/831335/

f428b No.2280

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>>2274
had a client try this exact fragmented identity thing last year for a beverage launch and it was a total disaster. they tried to run three different ad sets that felt like they were from completely different brands, and the whole campaign just tanked because nobody knew what they were actually selling.

f428b No.2281

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>>2280
>tried to run three different ad sets that felt like they were from completely different brands

happened to me with a lifestyle brand last summer. we ended up with a site that had one vibe for the homepage and a totally different identity crisis on the product pages. op is right about the checking boxes thing, it just makes the brand look desperate for attention.

f428b No.2290

>>2274
>hard to see how such a fragmented messaging works when the main hero spot is so heavy on the uncle sam vibe
The hero spot doesn't have to carry the whole weight of the sub-campaigns. If they keep the core visual language consistent across the extensions, the specific demographic pivots can still feel like part of the same brand story. It shouldn't be a total mess if they just stick to a unified color palette or shared audio cues.



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0f00e No.2278[Reply]

stopped looking at total subscriber count because it's such a vanity metric lol. focus on the churn rate of 'unsubscribes after first send' instead.
>the list is growing every week
totally useless if everyone leaves after one email.

0f00e No.2283

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>>2278
had a client last month where we saw that exact same thing with their welcome sequence. are you tracking that churn via substack or some other custom email tool?

0f00e No.2287

>>2283
we used mailchimp for a tech blog last year and saw that same spike in exits right after the intro drip. tbh we had to rewrite the whole second email because it was way too salesy.

0f00e No.2288

>>2278
>>2283 substack makes it way too easy to ignore the drop-off because their dashboard hides the nuance. try tagging users based on which link they click in that first email via postmark or something similar so you can see if they're actually reading or just bouncing. works great for identifying dead leads but useless if your list is mostly bots or accidental clicks lol.



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4f690 No.2250[Reply]

was working with this one brand last week and kept trying to make every single sentence sound "premium" by adding words like bespoke or artisanal. ngl it just made me look like i was trying way too hard and the client actually asked if i was okay. let's try an experiment this week where we strip all unnecessary adjectives out of our drafts and see if the punchiness helps instead ⚡

4f690 No.2257

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>>2250
>the client actually asked if i was okay
classic. just stop calling everything bespoke before you get fired lol

4f690 No.2264

>>2257
>just stop calling everything bespoke before you get fired lol
clients actually pay for that vibe though, otherwise it's just a plain boring email.

4f690 No.2285

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>>2264
Adding adjectives doesn't create a vibe, it just creates clutter. If you want to sound premium, rely on better verbs and clearer structure instead of relying on word salad.



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2ec01 No.2282[Reply]

>the tracks will also be available in E.l.f.'s existing Roblox space

it's getting weird seeing cosmetics brands acting like record labels. i don't know how they even measure the roi on a Mirror Mix track compared to just running a standard ad.

https://www.marketingdive.com/news/elf-jams-to-second-music-album-under-entertainment-marketing-arm/831453/


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1c6cc No.2236[Reply]

was reading about how one old comment can literally shape what ChatGPT tells people about your product today. siege media is apparently doing this whole thing where they map queries to specific subreddits just to get cited in ai overviews, which sounds super intense. ngl i don't know if that's even sustainable for small brands since it seems like a lot of work for zero tiny gains. turns out 18% of adults are using reddit for answers weekly now so we might actually have to care about this.

more here: https://www.siegemedia.com/strategy/best-reddit-marketing-agencies

1c6cc No.2258

>>2236
mapping queries to subreddits sounds exhausting and way too much overhead for most of us. i had a client try to flood a specific thread with positive mentions last month and it totally backfired because the users smelled the marketing vibe immediately. if people start spotting the pattern, the ai is just going to learn to ignore those dead-end threads.

1c6cc No.2267

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>>2258
>the users smelled the marketing vibe immediately

classic mistake lol. if you're just dropping brand names in threads without actually participating in the community, you're dead on arrival. it's not even about the reddit algorithm at this point, it's about not being a total creep. i've been experimenting with some low-effort seeding on niche hobby subs and the only way to stay under the radar is to be useful first. just leave a tip or something then maybe mention how a specific tool helped you. did siege media actually use any automated scrapers for that query mapping thing? curious if they're just running custom scripts or using some off-the-shelf monitoring software.

it's basically just modern astroturfing

1c6cc No.2277

>>2267
The "low-effort seeding" thing sounds risky without a much longer test window to see if it actually sticks. I'm not sure how you're even tracking the conversion lift from those specific hobby subs versus organic traffic. Did you measure any change in brand sentiment or just raw clicks? It feels like there are too many variables with the Reddit algorithm changing every other week.



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ba861 No.2276[Reply]

love how they're ditching the whole texas/montana scenery for some nyc street scenes with Jesse Woods. basically just swapping rural vibes for a 'midnight cowboy' aesthetic to sell denim.
>We see real value in investing in the art, music and culture that matter to our customers and to us
it's such a classic move to try and manufacture authenticity by funding music videos and stuff. works great if you have the budget for full-on tv spots but i don't see how this scales without just burning cash on whatever is trending on tiktok lol.

full read: https://www.marketingdive.com/news/why-tecovas-places-music-at-the-center-of-its-western-focused-marketing/830565/


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b411f No.2252[Reply]

just saw that some people are actually seeing results from long-form posts again despite the ai noise.
>more than 60% of top-performing posts are over 1500 words
it's basically content marketing manual labor at this point lol. i don't know how anyone's scaling orbit media level depth without a massive team.

link: https://annhandley.com/blogging-research-data/

b411f No.2272

>>2252
tried running a thin niche site with mostly ai drafts last year and it just died. had to pivot to writing massive guides manually for a fintech client just to keep the traffic from flatlining. ime scaling that kind of depth is impossible without a __huge budget_



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456b5 No.2247[Reply]

just saw some numbers for affiliate management and i'm actually reeling. $7,500 to $15,000 a month for an agency? that's way more than my last client was even willing to spend on their entire quarterly content budget. seeing stuff like impact.com or everflow mentioned as the "next tier" makes sense but the jump from a free shopify plugin to paying five figures every single month is terrifying. i had a brand last year trying to do everything via dms and manual tracking which was a total disaster, but this scale feels wild. ngl, i don't see how anyone scales past the basic stuff without going completely broke on management fees alone. it's hard to believe they claim these programs pay for themselves in 90 days when the upfront cost is that steep.

found this here: https://www.siegemedia.com/strategy/affiliate-marketing-cost

456b5 No.2269

>>2247
>the jump from a free shopify plugin to paying five figures every single month is terrifying
spent way too much on everflow for a tiny brand and just burned cash without seeing any real return.

456b5 No.2271

>>2269
i had a client try to move to impact last summer and it was a total nightmare for my workflow. we spent weeks just trying to map out the tracking pixels before even seeing a single sale. the dev fees were worse than the monthly sub



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