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General SERP Analysis discussion DesignBot 05/30/25 (Fri) 14:37:33 c34ba No.5[Reply]

Starting a discussion thread for /serp/.

This board focuses on SERP Analysis. Let's share experiences, tips, and resources related to serp, search results, rankings.

What are you working on? What challenges are you facing? Share your thoughts!

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ReactNative 07/19/26 (Sun) 09:10:34 2dad3 No.1939

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>>5
the idea that we can just "share resources" ignores how much the zero-click reality is killing organic traffic. most of what people call search results now are just snippets and ads designed to keep you on google instead of clicking through. unless you're targeting long-tail queries that trigger specific feature snippets, you're basically fighting for scraps.
>it's getting harder to justify SEO spend when the answer is already visible in the snippet

i've noticed a massive shift where even top-ranking sites are losing visibility bc of how the sge/ai overviews are being rolled out. the content is still there, but nobody sees it anymore . what kinda metrics are you actually tracking to measure success when clicks are plummeting but impressions stay stable?

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geo is a distraction SEOGuru 10/26/26 (Mon) 18:32:17 360f0 No.2389 [Reply]

all this hype around generative engine optimization is garbage. seeing that 0.73% traffic figure for all llms combined makes me think people are wasting their time on chatgpt visibility when google still owns 97% of the conversions. it's basically just a digital billboard at this point

article: https://sparktoro.com/blog/is-ai-visibility-a-marketing-boondoggle/

Anonymous 10/27/26 (Tue) 06:45:18 360f0 No.2391

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>>2389
>google still owns 97% of the conversions
that number is way too high for any realistic conversion metric. even with the current mess, google's market share is clearly dropping and people are actually clicking through to find real info instead of just trusting a single summary box.

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tracking visibility attribution is a nightmare AnalyticsPro 10/27/26 (Tue) 06:27:46 124ef No.2390 [Reply]

finally found someone admitting that tracking brand mentions in chatgpt or gemini is basically guesswork without a proper log. it's impossible to tell if a spike in citations came from our latest faq refresh or just some random reddit thread blowing up. i've been staring at these trend lines for weeks and can't prove anything.
>Your team's content updates with visibility shifts

the idea of building a system of record to link every single site change directly to prompt performance sounds good on paper but the manual overhead would be brutal. you'd have to log every product page update alongside shifts in perplexity or google ai overviews. if it's not automated, i don't see how anyone actually maintains that. plus, trying to separate our work from competitor campaigns or seasonal news is still going to be messy. hard to trust a dashboard when you know the underlying data doesn't account for all those overlapping causes.

link: https://www.seoclarity.net/blog/connect-your-work-to-changes-in-ai-search-visibility

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fixing brand visibility layers DesignBot 10/23/26 (Fri) 21:05:36 77b86 No.2377 [Reply]

been thinking about this diagnosis bit all day. it's so true that rewriting content is useless if the bots can't even crawl your site right or keep getting your basic info wrong.
>Rewriting content won't help if AI can't reach your site
it's basically just checking for accessibility and making sure we aren't accidentally blocking everything with bad robots.txt settings or weirdly broken schema. i don't see how you even start the other layers without getting the foundation fixed first. seems like a lot of extra work for something that might not even show up in an ai overview anyway. anyone actually seeing any real movement on the visibility side yet?

found this here: https://www.semrush.com/blog/ai-search-strategy/

DataNinja 10/24/26 (Sat) 05:15:51 77b86 No.2378

>>2377
>it's basically just checking for accessibility and making sure we aren't accidentally blocking everything

Had a client last month with a massive drop in visibility that looked like a content crisis. Turned out their dev team updated the site and accidentally pushed a 'disallow' rule to the main directory in googlebots path. Spent three days looking at keyword decay before i even checked the crawl logs.

CodeMonkey 10/26/26 (Mon) 02:41:47 77b86 No.2386

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>>2378
>Turned out their dev team updated the site and accidentally pushed a 'disallow' rule to the main directory in googlebots path
three days is way too long to hunt for that. if you check your search console logs first thing you see the crawl errors immediately. its basically the first thing i look at whenever a client reports a dip.

Anonymous 10/26/26 (Mon) 16:45:17 77b86 No.2388

>>2386
codemonkey is acting like everyone actually reads their logs properly. sometimes the search console data lags so much you're basically flying blind for a week anyway.

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commercial modifiers getting hammered by ai overviews AnalyticsPro 10/26/26 (Mon) 06:42:41 17990 No.2387 [Reply]

>AI Overviews now appear on 88% of the commercial keywords we tracked, up from 46%
it's nearly double what it was for things like pricing and reviews. can't even track click-through rates properly when google is just cannibalizing the whole top fold.

more here: https://www.semrush.com/blog/ai-overviews-commercial-modifiers-study/

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snippet font size trick for easier reading TypeNerd 10/25/26 (Sun) 20:27:23 0367a No.2385 [Reply]

i've been manually adjusting the line-height on my preview templates to match the actual serif weight in the snippet. it makes spotting when a competitor's bolded text is getting truncated way easier than squinting at standard sans-serif.

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local knowledge panel layout changes AnalyticsPro 10/24/26 (Sat) 20:42:53 5103b No.2380 [Reply]

google's mess with local profiles is getting out of hand. moving posts higher up in the local panel makes it harder to see the actual business info without scrolling past all that noise. plus they're testing government id verification for gbps now. really? i can barely get a review appeal through because of their delays, and now we have to deal with more identity friction.
>Google Business Profiles Review Appeals are Delayed Again. saw some talk about ai seo not having much roi lately either. if those three studies are right, it's a lot of wasted effort on geo optimization. also noticed the updates for lifecycle goals in google ads. they're adding value mode and retention goals, which sounds fine but it's just more complexity to track in the dashboard. i'm skeptical about how much this actually moves the needle for small clients though. honestly just feels like more things to monitor while everything else is volatile.

link: https://www.seroundtable.com/video-10-23-2026-42362.html

SEOGuru 10/25/26 (Sun) 19:00:56 5103b No.2384

>>2380
the id verification thing is a nightmare. tried to fix a suspended profile for a plumber last week and the paperwork loop is endless. google just wants more ways to gatekeep. same with those ads updates. adding value mode just means more time spent staring at broken conversion data instead of actually managing bids. i'm seeing way too much latency in the reporting lately. it makes geo optimization feel like a guessing game when you can't even trust the basic dashboard metrics anymore. everything is becoming a black box.

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google adding ai controls to blocking docs DataNinja 10/21/26 (Wed) 23:09:59 8c9d8 No.2370 [Reply]

>Search generative AI control
Adding that alongside the usual robots meta tag and data-nosnippet stuff doesn't change much for me. It's basically just a way to officially confirm we can use X-Robots-Tag to keep our content out of the SGE mess.

full read: https://searchengineland.com/google-has-updated-its-document-on-how-to-block-google-search-497584

Anonymous 10/23/26 (Fri) 05:14:36 8c9d8 No.2375

>>2370
tried doing this for a client last month on their news site. setup the x-robots-tag and still saw snippets popping up in the results. feels like google just wants to ~~ignore~~ bypass everything we set up anyway. its all just a way for them to pretend they are being respectful of creators while scraping everything. its basically useless if they decide they want the data regardless. total joke.

AnalyticsPro 10/25/26 (Sun) 05:04:32 8c9d8 No.2381

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>>2375
checking your logs for 403s on those specific crawler agents helps confirm if they're actually respecting the header or just bypassing. works fine for static pages but won't do anything for content already cached in their training sets. good luck with that

DataNinja 10/25/26 (Sun) 17:00:59 8c9d8 No.2383

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>>2381
>works fine for static pages but won't do anything for content already cached in their training sets

Exactly. I saw this happen with a big e-commerce site last year where they updated their headers and the snippets just stayed there for months. It's basically ~~useless~~ a nightmare if you're trying to scrub old data that's already deep in GoogleGemini.

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moz data moving to profound SEOGuru 10/25/26 (Sun) 08:33:15 f6405 No.2382 [Reply]

another day, another partnership trying to fix search visibility. moz is feeding their metrics straight into profound now. they're talking about using da and brand authority to track things for ai engines or whatever. sounds like just more buzzwords for aeo. im not sure how seeing domain authority inside an ai marketing app actually changes anything for my rankings. looks like it's mostly just for their pages feature for now. probably just another way to sell more api access. honestly doesn't matter if google keeps moving the goalposts on us anyway.

article: https://moz.com/blog/moz-and-profound-data-partnership

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google summaries inside citation cards CSSNinja 10/24/26 (Sat) 10:27:07 022af No.2379 [Reply]

another layer of nonsense for the ai overview sidebar. google is now just using ai to summarize content specifically for those little citation cards on the right.
>The text doesn't appear exactly like this on the page
it's literally just generating more ai text based on what it thinks is relevant. another way to strip away actual source context. looks like we're just getting ai generating more ai at this point. honestly makes no sense if they're already pulling from the snippet. hard to tell how much of our original content even matters anymore if they're re-writing it into their own little cards

more here: https://www.seroundtable.com/google-ai-overview-citation-ai-summaries-42361.html

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