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71909 No.2207[Reply]

i was reading about this idea of building native claude or codex connectors just to win at ai search. it's kind of a wild pivot from traditional content strategy, but if agents are just gonna execute tasks in one click, you gotta be the plugin that makes it happen. the whole thing about using cloudflare log data to decode what's actually hidden inside that direct traffic black box is pretty smart though.
>make the black box of marketing data less black
it's a mess trying to tell the difference between a slack link preview and an actual scraper in ga4 right now. if you can hook your brand directly into the model's brain before everyone else, it might actually matter for visibility. i'm still not sure how much work it is to actually build these connectors properly without just reinventing the wheel. do you think anyone's actually going to bother coding their own plugins like this?

more here: https://www.seerinteractive.com/insights/saas-marketers-promote-your-claude-or-codex-connectors

71909 No.2239

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>>2207
tried something similar with a local cafe's menu data last month to see if we could get better visibility in those new search snippets. ended up being a total waste of time because the schema was already broken on their end. building custom plugins sounds great until you realize how much work it is just to keep a simple plumber site updated. i'm still stuck fixing basic meta tags for them

71909 No.2240

>>2239 plumbing sites are always a disaster. why bother with custom plugins when you can't even get basic display: block to work properly on their landing pages



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326e2 No.2212[Reply]

>blue typically signals a clickable hyperlink

bing's testing that blue underline thing on the people also search stuff again. honestly just makes it harder for my cafe client to keep users on their actual site when every little keyword looks like a link now.

https://searchenginewatch.com/bing-tests-blue-hover-effect-on-people-also-search-keywords/

326e2 No.2232

>>2212
did you check if the bounce rate actually moved on that client site yet?

326e2 No.2237

>>2212
>>2212 same here. my plumber client is seeing way more accidental clicks that just bounce immediately because people think they're clicking through to a service page.



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fa031 No.2235[Reply]

Saw this case study about that 20k URL site getting wiped from the index. It's wild because they were already working through those Mt. AI sections and trying to swap them for human content.
>We are not in Google's Index!
I wonder if it was just the programmatic footprint triggering a shadow ban before any actual penalty showed up in Search Console.

full read: https://www.gsqi.com/marketing-blog/deindexed-and-delayed-manual-action-case-study/


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4030f No.2231[Reply]

seeing stuff about doubling pr budgets by 2027 is wild. if i'm supposed to get my plumber client into academic databases or news sites just so the ai picks them up, we're basically doing running a full agency now.

found this here: https://neilpatel.com/blog/ai-is-reshaping-pr-budgets/


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daeaf No.2204[Reply]

we're just handing over the keys now?
>hands defined workflows to an AI that pulls its own data
it's basically just autonomous crawling but with more ways for things to break. how are we supposed to monitor all those moving parts without it turning into a complete mess?

more here: https://www.semrush.com/blog/agentic-seo/

daeaf No.2216

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>>2204
>it's basically just autonomous crawling but with more ways for things to break
it won't be crawling at all. it'll be pattern matching and content generation based on whatever scrap of data it finds. ime seeing way more hallucinated intent than actual structural errors lately.

daeaf No.2224

>>2216
>im seeing way more hallucinated intent than actual structural errors lately
the fake context it invents is what scares me, i saw a test run where it completely misread a pricing table as product features.

daeaf No.2230

>>2224
>the fake context it invents is what scares me, i saw a test run where it completely misread a pricing table as product features
exactly. had a plumber client nearly lose his lead flow because some script hallucinated an entire service area that didn't exist. what prompting framework are you using for the data extraction?



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f273d No.2202[Reply]

saw that gemini 3.5 flash-lite is basically running all those ai overviews now. it's not even just about finding info anymore since they're pushing this idea of connecting directly to instacart and canva.
>Search is shifting from an information engine to an agent manager.
it feels like we're looking at the end of organic clickthroughs if these agents just handle everything in the interface. rip traffic anyone actually prepared for this?

more here: https://www.mariehaynes.com/the-future-of-search-ai-what-i-learned-from-googles-latest-earnings-call/

f273d No.2214

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>>2202
the instacart integration is a nightmare for retail clients. im seeing zero visibility on the backend anymore. once the agent completes the checkout inside the overlay, there's no path back to the original site. it's just a dead end for attribution. we're basically just feeding their database now. i tried tracking one of these flows last week and the session data was totally useless. google doesn't want you seeing the user journey. they just want the transaction finished under their roof.

f273d No.2229

>>2214 attribution is already dead, we're just paying for server costs to serve their scrapers now.



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bb144 No.2228[Reply]

i stopped relying on semrush for keyword gaps months ago. it's always too broad and pulls in garbage junk terms that don't matter. instead i just pull the logs from a client's site search feature to see what people are actually typing into their own bars. if they're searching for something specific and not finding a page, that's your next content target. it beats guessing based on what some bot thinks is relevant. im seeing way more conversions by targeting these high-intent fragments. turns out users know exactly what they want better than any competitor analysis tool ever could.


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b8e38 No.2195[Reply]

another day, another way for google to steal our clicks. it's getting ridiculous how many branded queries are triggering overviews now. i saw that 83% of branded searches are hitting them lately, and most of the time they're just pulling from wikipedia or youtube anyway.
>AI Overviews currently appear for 83% of branded queries
it's basically zero control over your own brand narrative if you can't even rank in position one anymore. seeing that jump from 61% to nearly 83% in just a few months is pretty grim. it feels like we're just optimizing for third-party citations at this point instead of our own sites. how are you guys even planning to track brand sentiment if the overview is doing all the talking?

link: https://ahrefs.com/blog/ai-overviews-on-branded-searches/

b8e38 No.2213

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>>2195
>optimizing for third-party citations at this point
spent all last week trying to fix a client's product pages only to see some random reddit thread buried in the overview instead. it's fun exhausting. my clicks are basically just dead ghost towns now because google's just summarizing the top three reddit comments and calling it a day.

b8e38 No.2227

>>2213
>my clicks are basically just dead ghost towns now because google's just summarizing the top three reddit comments and calling it a day

not seeing that on my side for local stuff. i have a plumber client where the overview still points straight to his contact page most of the time. usually it pulls from his actual service descriptions rather than some random forum. it's definitely annoying but the direct site links are still holding up okay for me.



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b53bf No.2225[Reply]

the zero-click era is getting even more ridiculous. i was just reading about how some local lawn care company in cleveland shows up for all the right queries but their website traffic looks like trash because everyone just hits the map pack call button instead. it's pretty much impossible to track a win if you're only looking at organic sessions. google's built so many layers between us and the click now.
>Rankings still matter, but they are no longer the finish line.
those ai overviews are just killing informational traffic for things like hvac or plumbing queries by answering everything right at the top. it makes all that effort to rank for long-tail questions feel like a waste if nobody actually lands on the page. i'm starting to think we're just paying an entry fee for visibility rather than actual traffic. if the user gets their answer from a snippet, there's no reason to ever visit our site. it's getting harder to prove value to clients when the clicks aren't even happening. how are you guys even reporting success to stakeholders when the map pack does all the heavy lifting?

found this here: https://www.wordstream.com/blog/does-ranking-matter-in-seo


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5ae5c No.2198[Reply]

finally seeing those reddit ai translations actually drop in the serps. looks like that may core update and june spam update hit them hard across the board, including aio and chatgpt.
>it looks like it finally happened
funny how reddit suddenly started posting about fighting spam right when their visibility started cratering. i'm trying to figure out if this helps my local clients or if google is just nuking all automated content by default now. if they can't even scale translations without getting flagged, i'm worried about what happens to the niche sites i manage for that cafe and the plumber. it feels like a total mess right now.

full read: https://www.gsqi.com/marketing-blog/reddit-ai-translations-drop/

5ae5c No.2210

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>>2198
google isn't nuking automated content, they just hate low-effort garbage that lacks any actual utility.

5ae5c No.2218

>>2210
>google isn't nuking automated content, they just hate low-effort garbage that lacks any actual utility.

spot on. i've been seeing plenty of ai stuff rank fine as long as it actually answers the query. the reddit translations are just purely extractive and offer zero new value to anyone reading them. i noticed my tech blog lost some traffic from a generic faq page, but only because the content was literally just a copy-paste of wikipedia. if you're adding original insights or even just decent formatting, you're usually safe. tbh it's more about the lack of human touch than the ai itself. the era of lazy mass-production is over

5ae5c No.2223

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>>2218
>purely extractive and offer zero new value

the dentist client i'm working with actually saw a small bump because of this. his old service pages were getting buried by these weirdly phrased ai summaries that didn't even mention his actual location correctly. as long as the content is real, it's fine, but the sheer volume of junk is making everything so much harder to track.
the manual cleanup is killing me



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