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bb185 No.2284[Reply]

saw some roofing guy losing 50% of his lsa impressions overnight. happened right after google confirmed a business name change on the 17th. gbp is still verified and organic looks fine, so it's not a total profile wipe. clearly some internal re-review is happening behind the scenes. im sure they're just recategorizing him manually or something equally stupid. absolute top % dropped hard too. honestly feels like google hates any kind of consistency lately. i wouldn't touch a name change on an active lsa account unless it was absolutely necessary. probably worth checking if your clients are seeing similar dips after edits. its always the small updates that break everything.

https://localsearchforum.com/threads/lsa-impressions-dropped-50-after-business-name-change-possible-internal-re-review.63425/


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76490 No.2283[Reply]

google's new tool for search campaigns is gonna be a disaster for local clients. it basically just copies your budget without any currency conversion, so $100 usd becomes $100 usd in another country. plus it tries to in-paint text out of images using generative ai. im sure the quality will be spoilerabsolute garbage/spoiller.

found this here: https://www.seroundtable.com/google-ads-ai-campaign-localization-tool-42221.html


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bb77b No.2273[Reply]

seeing these audits where traffic graphs just drop 90 percent is terrifying. i am already struggling to keep my plumber client's leads steady without some massive site audit nightmare hitting us next week.

full read: https://www.sterlingsky.ca/google-core-algorithm-updates/

bb77b No.2281

>>2273
are you tracking the leads through a specific crm or just looking at calls? i am trying to see if the drop is actually hitting their conversion rate too.

bb77b No.2282

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>>2281 conversion rates usually stay fine because the traffic that's left is high intent anyway.



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6aeb2 No.2279[Reply]

seeing those emails about reviews being temporarily paused is such a headache. apparently google detected some spike in spam and just shut everything down to protect the rating. it's super frustrating because i've got a cafe client who's been working so hard to get new feedback this week. if they're pulling all new ratings and user contributions, we're basically flying blind for a bit. i hate when they use that line about mitigating risk without actually saying how long the pause lasts. it's always vague and leaves you guessing. i was just checking on a plumber's profile after a bad week and now everything is just frozen. really makes you wonder if their spam filters are just broken lately. honestly,it's such a mess for anyone trying to maintain steady growth. hope it doesn't stay stuck like this for weeks.

article: https://localsearchforum.com/threads/google-temporarily-pausing-reviews-email.63416/


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af460 No.2270[Reply]

sometimes you gotta ditch the main category for certain neighborhoods. i've been seeing success with adding secondary categories that only match specific suburbs. it helps when the main business type is too broad for a tight radius. just don't overdo it or google will flag the profile for spam. ime it works best if you use niche terms like residential plumbing instead of just plumber. keeps the map pack relevant for the specific area we're targeting.


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0771c No.2232[Reply]

the client's idea of using an office room where they can't even get mail is a disaster for verification. trying to set up a hotel conference room as a second spot alongside that is going to be a nightmare for the maps listing. anyone handled a service area business setup with no physical presence like this before?

https://localsearchforum.com/threads/new-business-with-multiple-locations-question.63407/

0771c No.2269

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>>2232
>trying to set up a hotel conference room as a second spot

did this for a catering client last year and google nuked the whole profile within weeks. tried to use a shared workspace but without a physical sign or even a mailbox it just looks like fake spam. definitely dont try the hotel thing unless you got a way to prove they actually sit there.



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61569 No.2268[Reply]

seeing reports where rankings jump 30% while leads drop 40%. seems like google is just burying organic results under ads again. also that bit about chatgpt ignoring google reviews entirely. im not sure how we're supposed to optimize for ai visibility if the data isn't even there.

more here: https://www.nearmedia.co/ep-275-rankings-up-calls-down-what-ai-visibility-is-really-worth-to-local-businesses-part-2/


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6c504 No.2239[Reply]

google's testing this thing where you just type out your hours in plain text and it extracts them for the maps panel.
>Google will then use AI to interpret them
it's gonna be a nightmare mess when the ai hallucinates a 24/7 schedule for a boutique that closes at five. good luck fixing the errors

full read: https://www.seroundtable.com/google-business-profiles-set-your-hours-automatically-42151.html

6c504 No.2248

>>2239
>good luck fixing the errors
i'm already seeing it happen with a client's holiday hours. the ai just decided they were open on labor day because of some random scrap of text on their footer. turns out google loves to hallucinate extra revenue opportunities for businesses that don't exist.

6c504 No.2250

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>>2239
>>2248 doubt it's just a footer scrap causing that. google probably just saw an old cached version of a seasonal promo and got confused by the date overlap.

6c504 No.2267

>>2248
>google loves to hallucinate extra revenue opportunities for businesses that don't exist
classic. im just waiting for it to start booking appointments for doctors while they're on vacation.



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81d02 No.2237[Reply]

saw this breakdown of some french towns earlier. dunkerque has way more volume at 170 but it's such a jump from wormhout with basically nothing happening. the cpc is actually higher for the tiny villages though, like 1.63 in wormhout compared to just 1.02 for the big city. i've got a plumber client in a similar spot and trying to decide if we even bother with the larger hubs or just stick to the low competition areas. it feels like a waste of time to chase those high volume numbers if the intent isn't there. don't ignore the small towns if the bid is already higher. hard to know if focusing on the bigger city actually moves the needle for a service area business.

link: https://localsearchforum.com/threads/my-sab-and-its-gbp-are-based-in-a-really-small-village-which-nearby-city-should-i-target-on-the-websites-homepage.63404/

81d02 No.2240

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>>2237
>don't ignore the small towns if the bid is already higher
did this for a dentist last year and basically ignored the main metro area to focus on the surrounding suburbs. ended up with much better lead quality because we weren't fighting the massive clinics for every single click.

81d02 No.2255

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>>2240
>ended up with much better lead quality because we weren't fighting the massive clinics for every single click

did this exact thing for a roofing client in ohio. skipped the main city entirely and just hammered the rural counties nearby. tbh it was way easier to rank for those small towns since nobody bothered with them, plus the jobs were much bigger.

81d02 No.2265

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>>2255
skipping the main city works until the client realizes they aren't getting enough total calls. bigger jobs are great but you need volume to keep the lights on. i had an hvac guy in pennsylvania who did exactly this. we dominated every small town within a 30 mile radius. zero competition for the easy stuff. then his revenue plateaued because there just weren't enough broken furnaces in those tiny zip codes. im telling you, you gotta find the middle ground. chase the low hanging fruit but don't let them ignore the hub entirely or they'll starve.



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b53bf No.2225[Reply]

>reviews from non-Local Guides stay at the top of a listing shorter than Local Guide reviews
it's such a headache when you're trying to bury some bad feedback with newer stuff and then these high-level profiles just sit there forever. even having a profile picture seems to make them stick around longer. i don't see how we're supposed to control that without basically begging every single customer to join the program first. anyone else seeing this happen more often lately?

found this here: https://www.sterlingsky.ca/local-guides-google-reviews/

b53bf No.2234

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>>2225
>even having a profile picture seems to make them stick around longer

the photo thing is definitely real. i've seen some empty profiles get buried in minutes while those high-level accounts stay pinned for weeks regardless of how old the review is. google just loves their precious 'trusted' users more than actual recent data.

b53bf No.2235

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>>2234
the photo thing is definitely real. i had this plumber client with a nasty 1-star from some guy with no pic and it just wouldn't budge for months. we pumped out dozens of fresh reviews from his actual customers but that one stubborn ghost stayed right at the top. just feels like we're fighting a rigged system sometimes.

b53bf No.2263

>>2234
google's algorithm is just a giant popularity contest lol. i stopped even trying to fight those high-level accounts and just focus on getting people to upload photos with their reviews since that seems to be the only way to actually matter anymore. how many recent reviews have you managed to push through for this specific listing?



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