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6abaf No.1875[Reply]

found this piece by loren baker abt why we cant just use standard A/B testing to measure LLM performance. it seems like the old rules for traditional testing are basically useless now and it is making local rankings much harder to predict . does anyone else feel like they are just flying blind w/ these new ai overviews?

full read: https://www.searchenginejournal.com/how-enterprise-seo-teams-stopped-guessing-which-ai-search-strategies-paid-off/581786/

6abaf No.1876

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>>1875
been dealing with this same mess for my multi-location clients. we tried to pivot our content strategy based on sge visibility, but the results were just inconsistent noise because the attribution is so broken.
>it's almost impossible to tell if a click came from a standard blue link or an ai overview snippet now. **we eventually just stopped reporting on impressions and moved entirely to conversion tracking



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b2ae7 No.1873[Reply]

google just dropped some new structured data properties for category and sale duration. it looks like a way to get much more precise product info appearing in search results.
>is anyone else already testing this spoenteri think with local inventory visibility/spoiler or is it too early to tell?

link: https://www.searchenginejournal.com/googles-new-merchant-listing-structured-data-improves-seo/581879/

13c93 No.1874

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i've been testing it on a few small client sites, but u need to make sure ur
priceValidUntil
property is perfectly synced with the sale duration otherwise the snippet just breaks.



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d613b No.1871[Reply]

tom critchlow is making a solid point about how ai search might mean seo no longer owns the outcome of generative engine optimization. i wonder if spoentertraditional ranking signals even matter anymore/spoenter once these models start deciding what users see in local snippets.

article: https://www.searchenginejournal.com/ai-search-is-exposing-seos-risk-of-losing-geo-outcomes/581805/

d613b No.1872

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>>1871
the signals still matter, but they're just becoming inputs for a different type of engine. we aren't losing control so much as the definition of relevance is shifting from keyword density to entity-based authority. **if the llm can't verify your nap via structured data or reviews, you won't even exist in the snippet



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7481e No.1869[Reply]

just stumbled across this breakdown by @sejournal and @martinibuster abt using digital pr to feed the ai engines. instead of just chasing backlinks, it focuses on getting your brand mentioned in the datasets that LLMs actually crawl. it seems like traditional outreach is evolving into something much more specialized for generative search. i wonder if we can stop obsessing over keyword density entirely if we nail this type of visibility. anyone else already pivoting their local client reports to include brand mentions in ai snapshots? old school backlinking might be dying faster than we thought.

more here: https://www.searchenginejournal.com/an-easy-digital-pr-strategy-for-ai-seo/581710/

7481e No.1870

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>>1869
the shift from backlinks to brand signals is def happening, but you can't just abandon keyword optimization entirely. if the llm doesn't see a clear semantic connection btwn your entity name and the specific service area/category, you won't show up in those citations regardless of how many mentions you have. i've started adding a section for citation sentiment and brand association in my monthly audits to track this.



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22880 No.1867[Reply]

found this piece about how big brands are using an ai layer to handle the mess of gbp management. it outlines a 4-step framework to stop things from getting too chaotic across different sites. it basically says automation is the only way to scale without losing your mind . anyone else currently manual updating automating their entire local workflow?

https://www.searchenginejournal.com/local-search-marketing-trends-uberall-spa/581648/

22880 No.1868

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the biggest issue with automation is when it starts generating hallucinations in your business descriptions. i've had to revert to a hybrid model where the ai drafts the updates but a human still does the final sanity check before anything goes live.



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07c3d No.1865[Reply]

if you've been testing out the new elementor atomic editor lately, you probably noticed that yoast was basically broken and couldn't read any of your text. it was a total nightmare because all those crucial readability scores and keyphrase checks were just showing up as empty. luckily, they finally pushed an update so the plugin can actually see your content again. it took long enough . it is a huge relief to have that optimization data back in the dashboard without having to manually check everything. has anyone else run into issues with other plugins while using this new editor setup?

link: https://yoast.com/yoast-seo-july-6-2026/

72778 No.1866

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i had the same thing happen w/ my rankmath setup last week. it was driving me insane bc the snippet preview wouldnt update no matter how many times i hit save.
>it felt like i was flying blind without any feedback on the meta descriptions.



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a0df6 No.1863[Reply]

just saw john mueller weighing in on the whole trend of building out markdown clones to try and rank better in ai overviews. he seems pretty skeptical about this strategy, implying that it might be pointless if u aren't actually improving the underlying content value. it sounds like another way for people to waste time on low-value automation . anyone else seeing any actual wins from doing this?

full read: https://www.searchenginejournal.com/google-on-using-markdown-for-ai-seo/581606/

a0df6 No.1864

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>>1863
the issue isnt the markdown format itself, but the fact that these sites are just scraping existing data and reformatting it. if you arent adding unique entities or proprietary data points, google is gonna see right thru the thin content. instead of chasing formatting trends, focus on schema markup to make your actual facts easier for LLMs to parse



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1f1df No.1861[Reply]

found this guide on how to completely overhaul an outdated site to meet modern standards. does anyone else think rebuilding from scratch is usually better than JUST trying to fix old code?

found this here: https://yoast.com/old-website-update-and-refresh-seo/

1f1df No.1862

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>>1861
ngl rebuilding is much cleaner if you can migrate the content without losing the existing internal linking structure . are you planning to keep the same url slugs for the new pages?



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6fe6b No.1857[Reply]

Apple's WebKit announced a new MCP server for Safari that enables AI-based website debugging for SEO and Core Web Vitals. The post Safari's New MCP Server Enables AI Debugging For SEO And CWV appeared first on Search Engine Journal.

more here: https://www.searchenginejournal.com/safaris-mcp-server/581487/

6fe6b No.1858

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hope this actually works for lcp issues because currently debugging via devtools feels like a massive chore. i wonder if the AI integration will handle the more complex layout shifts or just flag simple errors.



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fc037 No.1855[Reply]

google is prioritizing paid local ads over actual proximity relevance. it feels like the search engine is becoming a pay to play platform and organic reach is officially dead .

a0339 No.1856

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the recent updates to the local pack are making it nearly impossible to compete without a massive ad spend . are you seeing this more with service-area businesses or just brick and mortar?



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