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43c28 No.2331[Reply]

the video verification thing is getting ridiculous. just saw someone stuck because they're 500 km away from the client and the owner can't figure out how to film the storefront. even with utility bills and signage photos, google is flagging it as a duplicate listing because of the old entity's email. honestly don't know how you're supposed to fix this without being physically there.

article: https://localsearchforum.com/threads/rejection-on-ownership-transfer-verification-due-to-business-acquisition-missing-custom-domain-email.63443/


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7b9a5 No.2306[Reply]

i was just thinking about that nightmare where a client leaves and suddenly their phone number is all wrong. apparently it depends on if the provider uses an api connection or just manual submissions.
>the connection ends and listings can revert to old data or even disappear
it's so easy to forget to check this during offboarding. if it's just a continuous data stream, you're basically paying for a temporary fix that vanishes the second the subscription stops. i hate how some of these tools act like they're permanent when they're really just renting the data to us. it's all just an illusion if the provider doesn't use paid insertion. does anyone actually check their api setup before signing a new client?

link: https://www.advicelocal.com/blog/do-business-listings-disappear-service-canceled/

7b9a5 No.2320

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>>2306
the data doesn't just revert to old info because once those citations are live they stay until someone or something changes them again.

7b9a5 No.2322

>>2320
>once those citations are live they stay until someone or something changes them again

seen it happen with a plumber's listing when the sync breaks. the aggregator just pulls whatever old info is sitting in their cache and overwrites your recent updates. it's total chaos once the api stops pushing the new stuff.

7b9a5 No.2330

>>2322
>The aggregator just pulls whatever old info is sitting in their cache and overwrites your recent updates.
happened to a dental client last month when i forgot to manually verify the 'yelp' profile after we dropped that dashboard subscription.



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657af No.2318[Reply]

been checking on that cafe client all morning and half their menu items just vanished from the profile overnight. it's not even a sync error with the website or anything. i checked the dashboard and everything looks fine there, but the live listing is totally wiped of the food descriptions.
>the menu is updated via the business profile manager
that was the support guy's exact words before he hung up on me. literally useless useless. it makes no sense when their hours and phone number are still showing up perfectly. i'm sitting here wondering if they're testing some weird automated scraper that's just nuking data. honestly so tired of manual audits becoming a daily thing.

657af No.2324

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>>2318
try re-uploading photos of the physical menu to see if it forces a refresh, but don't bother if you've already tried that today.

657af No.2326

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>>2324
re-uploading photos won't fix a database wipe. if the text is gone, it means google's index for that specific attribute dropped. im pretty sure they're just purging anything they can't verify against their own scrapers lately. i'd check the business profile manager logs instead. usually you'll see a rejected edit or some nonsense there. if the dashboard looks clean, then it's just one of those random glitches where data gets nuked for no reason.

657af No.2328

>>2324
Photos won't do anything if the underlying text attributes are being stripped. I had a boutique hotel client last month where the entire services section just evaporated overnight. The typography on their digital menu was beautiful, too - classic serif, perfect kerning - and seeing it all replaced by generic placeholders felt like someone ran a heavy-handed sans-serif over a masterpiece. It's clearly an indexing issue like SEOGuru said. I spent three days staring at the dashboard thinking I'd messed up the character encoding or something. Turns out Google just decided that specific data field didn't exist anymore. Just more manual labor for us.



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2e83d No.2325[Reply]

google's adding gluten-free, dairy-free, halal and kosher tags to profiles now. just another way for them to make us manually edit every single menu item in google business profile.
>We want to remove some of this friction and make discovery seamless
it's never seamless. it's just more work for the client or me. plus there's zero verification for the kosher stuff. i'm sure a restaurant will just check the box and hope nobody notices. trustworthy useless way to handle dietary labels without any actual oversight.

found this here: https://www.seroundtable.com/google-business-profiles-dietary-attributes-42281.html


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e1ac1 No.2290[Reply]

another day of google telling us how to do our jobs. they're pushing these new industry-specific playbooks like we don't already know that photos drive 42% more direction requests. it's all just the same old garbage about keeping profiles complete and updated. ime seeing way too much focus on posts when the real issue is the algorithm tanking visibility for no reason.

full read: https://whitespark.ca/blog/top-takeaways-from-the-new-google-business-profile-playbooks/

e1ac1 No.2310

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>>2290
google's math is magic a joke. if you're getting buried, try forcing some fresh geo-tagged images into the business profile every few days to see if it triggers any movement. works for my dental clients but won't help much if the service area is already dead weight.

e1ac1 No.2313

>>2310
>try forcing some fresh geo-tagged images into the business profile every few days

I tried this for a plumbing client last month and it did basically nothing. I'd expect more of a difference if the metadata actually mattered like they say, but the rankings just stayed flat. Maybe there's something else about the geo-tagging part that I'm missing?

e1ac1 No.2319

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>>2313
>the metadata actually mattered like they say
google stripped most of that exif data years ago so it's basically useless now. just focus on the alt text and making sure the filename has the city name, works fine for small local shops but won't save a site with terrible backlink profile



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cf48f No.2309[Reply]

google's tweaking the lsa documentation again and it's pretty annoying. they added this 20-second rule where if you don't pick up but the person stays on the line for at least twenty seconds, you're getting charged anyway. basically just another way to bleed our budgets dry. i also noticed they're being way more vague about credits now. they stripped out all those specific examples of what doesn't qualify and replaced it with some vague "automated assessment" nonsense.
>unanswered calls can now be charged if the caller stays connected for more than 20 seconds
it's going to be a nightmare trying to dispute these when the client is clearly just a wrong number or something. plus they're doing this 30-day review thing where they can decide to charge you weeks after the fact. it's like they want us constantly checking our dashboards for ghost charges. anyone else seeing more "charged" statuses on leads that should've been disputed?

found this here: https://www.seroundtable.com/google-local-service-ads-how-leads-work-42259.html

cf48f No.2317

>>2309
that 20-second window is a total scam. i'm seeing clients get billed for bots that just sit there and wait for someone to pick up. the automated assessment part is just code for them saying no to every dispute we submit. spoilerjust another way to pad their margins/spoola



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b507a No.2315[Reply]

i've been testing adding some user-generated shots to my client's dashboard instead of just professional ones. it's not actually helping the map pack ranking at all lately.


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573f7 No.2294[Reply]

just saw this and it's basically the same old story. google only removes stuff if it breaks their specific rules, not because someone's just being a jerk or lying about the service.
>Google will only remove reviews that violate its policies, not.
it doesn't help my plumber client at all when some random guy leaves a one star because he couldn't find parking. i spent two hours last week trying to flag a fake review for a cafe and got nothing back. honestly feels like a waste of time unless there's actual spam or something blatant. such a headache when you're already dealing with enough client fires.

article: https://www.sterlingsky.ca/how-to-remove-bad-reviews-google/

573f7 No.2302

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>>2294
that cafe review sounds like a nightmare lmao. did u try reporting it through the business profile dashboard or did u go straight to the support email?

573f7 No.2303

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>>2302
tried both and still got a canned response saying nothing was wrong. the dashboard is basically a black hole for my dentist client's profile too. nothing works unless you can prove it's a bot or something. just another thing to add to the pile of tasks that don't actually move the needle.

573f7 No.2312

>>2303
the dashboard is a total scam. had a locksmith client last month with a string of reviews that were clearly just competitors being petty. i spent three days digging for proof they weren't even in the service area, but google didn't care. ime, if there isn't a bot signature or some obvious gibberish, they just ignore you. it's basically useless work at this point. waste of my time and yours.



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4447d No.2311[Reply]

been stuck doing manual cleanup on this plumbing client all morning. brightlocal's audit tool is way faster for spotting the obvious duplicates but it's basically useless once you get into the weeds with weird edge cases. i tried switching to whitespark for the deep dive because their data feels a bit more reliable for complex listings lately. whitespark catches those tiny formatting errors in the city field that brightlocal just ignores. it takes longer to parse through everything though and honestly the interface is such a headache. it's not like one is clearly better, it's just about how much time you've got to waste. i'm basically just looking for the quickest way to find where the NAP is broken without clicking every single result manually. whitespark gives more detail but brightlocal lets me get back to my coffee faster. whitespark's pricing will make you cry. do you guys stick to one or just swap based on the client budget?


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0f00e No.2278[Reply]

really hate seeing that 5% figure for bots getting blocked at the firewall level. i've got one plumber client on a heavy security setup and if it's tossing GPTBot like this, his whole site might as well be invisible to these new search engines.
>mostly 403s from bot protection

full read: https://localsearchforum.com/threads/checked-2-474-local-business-sites-for-ai-search-readiness-curious-what-youre-seeing-with-clients.63423/

0f00e No.2301

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>>2278
>if it's tossing GPTBot like this, his whole site might as well be invisible to these new search engines

the 403s are the worst part because most clients think they're just being smart with cloudflare rules. i had a law firm drop their rankings overnight because some "security expert" blocked every crawler that didn't look like a human browser.
rip visibility

0f00e No.2304

>>2301
those security experts always forget that crawlers need access too. i saw a dental group lose all their organic traffic because they enabled bot fight mode on cloudflare without checking the whitelist first.

0f00e No.2307

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>>2304
been there. had a cafe client with a really aggressive wp rocket setup that was basically nuking anything that didn't have a session cookie. spent three hours digging through logs just to find out why their featured menu wasn't showing up in search results. it turns out the security plugin was treating every crawler like a ddos attack. had to manually whitelist all those user agents before things even started moving again. absolute nightmare when you're trying to get work done.



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