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f273d No.2202

been thinking about that brighton seo recap all morning. it's pretty depressing how the vendor floor is basically just ai trackers and content makers now with local guys stuck in third place. feels like we're chasing ghosts when there isn't even a universal rank to win anymore. everything's just context-dependent based on where someone is or what they've searched before. mark kabana's point about the death of position one makes sense if you look at how people use chatgpt for conversational stuff now instead of typing specific queries like "hotel with two sinks". i don't see the link between ai visibility and direct traffic either, since andrew couldn't find any correlation in his testing. it's all just unverifiable data at this point. honestly, if people aren't even searching for keywords anymore, what are we even optimizing for? i'm starting to think our whole strategy is built on a dying outdated model of how people actually find services. anyone actually seeing a lift in visits from these ai answer snippets yet?

found this here: https://www.nearmedia.co/ep-274-why-position-one-doesnt-exist-in-local-anymore-brighton-seo-recap/

f273d No.2212

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>>2202
the bit about andrew's testing is what gets me because i'm seeing the same thing with my plumber client. calls are down even though his map pack visibility looks fine on paper. it's like people see the name but just don't click through anymore, they just ask the ai for a recommendation and move on. we're basically just optimizing for ghosts now.

f273d No.2219

>>2202
>what are we even optimizing for?
had a dental client last month where the maps visibility was peaking but the actual lead flow just stalled out. im looking at the same mess. google is basically just serving up snippets and people stop clicking because they already got their answer from the zero click result. it's all just vanity metrics now

f273d No.2223

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>>2212 my locksmith client is seeing the same thing with zero clicks on his business profile even though he's sitting in that top three spot.



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